Aisleyne's Finale Thread
Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 7:39:48 pm
by BB Alpha
This is Aisleyne's Finale Thread.
All other Jurors should remain in their own threads. Final 3, remember... this is not for you to address each other, but to talk to Aisleyne. In-fighting amongst the Final 3 should be reserved for the Live Finale Round Table on Sunday.
Aisleyne, you have until Saturday at 8c/9e to post your statements/questions to the Final 3. Remember not to take up too much of their time as they have 7 other jurors to get to. Please no listing or questions requiring novels for answers. You should post all of your statements/questions in your opening post in this thread. There is a live Finale Roundtable on Sunday where you will get to address everyone live about the statements they have made as well ask follow-ups.
Re: Aisleyne's Finale Thread
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 7:22:09 pm
by Aisleyne
Finale
First and foremost I would like to say Congratulations to the three of you, well to some more than others. Some of you played an incredible loyal game, while others just treated people like shit to get their way to the end.
Parker, love you buddy but not sure about your game play regardless of your opening statements, not sure how you made it to finale, I feel like the only credit I can give you is that you were loyal to the WRONG people. Anything else game related I haven’t seen you really do anything but talk talk talk your way out of shit and I personally don’t think you stand a chance sitting beside the people you are sitting next you tonight.
Glyn, kudos to you on the final stretch to the finale, I am in awe of your game play from start to finish. I commend you!
James, James, James! I feel like I have a love/hate relationship for you because one I wanted to work with you but you did not want to work with me even after I had already forgiven you about your “power trip” statement. The thing I don’t understand is upon my eviction you had the audacity to ask me for advice on what to do going forward in the game. LIKE BITCH WHY DF SHOULD I GIVE YOU ADVICE when you already lost my respect.
Now all you fuckers
need my motherfucking vote and
TRUST ME, you gunna have to
WORK for this one.
I have some questions for each of you and I will start with Parker first,
Parker’s Question: What was your biggest move in the game? And why? Because I feel like you “talked” your way to finale. (I don’t want to hear about winning the battle back comp.)
Glyn’ Question: I wasn’t sure what I was going to ask you, so I am going to ask you the same question the Jeff Kent from Survivor Philippines asked Skupin, there's three kinds of people: people that make things happen, people that watch things happen, and people that wonder what the hell just happened. Which one are you? And give me some examples in the game of which one you are.
James’ Question: Do you think you did a good job a jury management? If so, why?
I love & hate you all congratulations again on making it to finale!!
With Love,
Aisleyne xox
Re: Aisleyne's Finale Thread
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 9:18:06 pm
by Glyn
Hey Ais!
Thank you for saying that about my game, I hope you’re doing well! I love this question haha this is one of the questions I feel like you can apply to life. In answering this question and how it applies to my game, I think I am the person that made things happen. People who watch things happen are people who lets fate guide them whether thats to victory or to the loss. For me, coming into this game I was always trying to make things happen; of course, how much I did ranges through the game. Socially, coming into this season, I made sure I established bonds and that people put me in as many alliances as possible. For the past 30 or so days I have usually been one of the last two people up if not the last, messaging people until they have gone to sleep. This allowed me to push my social connections. I wasn’t waiting until people logged on, I would text them while they are offline asking them about themself and to respond to me when they got the chance; moral of the story, I was always working! Not only that, but there are plenty of instances in the game where I knew I had to take control of my game. Like for example when I had to do damage control with Chelsia, I could have easily crumbled under the pressure but I put all my effort into mending a relationship with her. Another example, I could have easily rode the wave of Group A and done whatever they said but I worked extremely hard to keep you instead of Parker, spite what the group wanted. Then I won HOH and went against what some people wanted in nominating Adam and Susie. I think I also have to note that I do not feel like my journey from the start of jury to here was no easy ride. I felt like people were constantly throwing my name around as someone who could go home, yet I fought to stay here. Like for example when I was on the block with Amanda, I was able to build a strong enough bond with Spiral for him to save me. Even though it did not pay off always LMAO, I always put in this same effort with competitions; like when I won the last POV of the season securing a win that if I did not get, I would have been eliminated. What a lot of people did not see is the planning I did behind the scenes for these competitions, looking at other seasons of stranded, like James did as well. I knew that I had a disadvantage in competitions so in preparing for the last competitions of the season, I went to the forums of the seasons of stranded and I studied and practiced those competitions. The last POV we got was a competition I was practicing so I knew exactly what I needed to do to win. Especially with the last and most important competition (the duel against Amanda) I studied all day and night. I made a 12 page google document with all the facts of the game that I needed to study, and several google sheets to memorize dates and competitions wins. I truly feel like I did everything I was capable of doing and I did not watch the game pass me by. Hopefully none of that sounded redundant LOL.
I appreciate the question Ais!
I picked this gif because of our discussion of ORGs you played on Zoom LOL
Re: Aisleyne's Finale Thread
Posted: Sun May 30, 2021 9:28:35 am
by Parker
I was waiting for your question! Fierce as expected. I can’t wait to meet you at the reunion. I’m not sure why you think I associated with the wrong people, was it a wrong choice associating with you and Spiral? And you speak negatively of me talking myself out of scenarios…. This is Big Brother. That’s the whole point of the game. To talk, talk, talk. To play chess while the rest are playing checkers. Gladly correct me if I misinterpreted your statement but I don’t understand how that’s a negative. That should just further push my social and strategic game.
As for your question, this was asked by other jury members but there’s always time to explain more (see my answer to Spiral). I think in general my overall best game move was my insertion into multiple alliances, but I know you want something specific and independent so I’ll try and go with something new here (just for variety, hopefully it doesn’t bite me in the ass) and say putting in motion the eviction of Adam in the game. At that point in the game, you were frustrated and telling me how you didn’t really want to talk with anyone in the house. Was that a bluff? I have no idea but I’ll assume it was real for the sake of this argument. I rallied the whole house against him. Adam wasn’t really a threat/comp beast at that point in the game until our nomination together. Yes he said some really wack shit and I needed the rest of the house to know it, and I of course… embellished everything that he told me to make him seem even more delusional, crazy and aggressive to paint him as the biggest target of the house. Since I knew more or less that I had the votes to stay, that move was to ensure that I survived the next few weeks as everyone would be focused on getting Adam out (which was the case). So I think me convincing all the house to “despise” Adam for what he did was probably my best independent move, as when I came back into the game after an unexpected eviction, I could still reap the benefits of what I put in motion.
Re: Aisleyne's Finale Thread
Posted: Sun May 30, 2021 10:35:27 am
by James
Hi Aisleyne,
Thank you for your question because it gives me an opportunity to address what are my perceived weaknesses. Your question overlaps a lot with Jennie and Amanda’s too , which is why I’m saving them all to do for last. I’ll post their answers later this afternoon. But I want to start by answering yours regarding jury management specifically.
First, I simply don’t think it’s true I had the worst social game like Parker keeps saying or that I alienated jurors while they were being sent out. Did I make some social mistakes, sure. But I think if you ask Sheila, Sezer, Adam, Jennie and Jen (and even Susie), I don’t think we were on bad terms at all when they left the game. Those were people I all had strong conversations with, both about personal and game matters. Even Amanda and I had a bunch of really good personal conversations too, but obviously she’s voting Glyn so I’m not going to push for her vote. I get it that if the jury is voting based on who can immediately write their biography, you’re probably picking Glyn, I get that he did massive intel gathering on that end. But to me, managing a jury is about more than learning various random details to spit back in gif format. It’s about convincing jurors you played the best game, and that I deserve your vote and your respect, and obviously not being a total asshole. I don’t think I acted like an asshole, I was simply aggressive in my gameplay. I never took an Adam or Amanda route in burning bridges as people went out the door (I get that Amanda IM’d everyone saying, don’t worry I don’t really mean it, after her outbursts. But regardless I didn’t blow up at people like that.)
Second, with regards to you and Spiral, I didn’t manage you the best as jurors, but that is a risk I took. Obviously it’s hard to manage someone when you are sending them out, like I did with you and Spiral, so if you two feel burnt I’ll take the blame for not managing that. But I was also prioritizing making the final 3 and if the cost of that is yours’ and Spiral’s blood, then that’s a cost that was worth it to me because I think those moves significantly helped me make the end.
Third, what I tried to do to manage the other jurors was to be as truthful as I could when I could not keep someone. Like with Susie and Sheila, for example, as they went out, I didn’t BS them and say “oh no this is going to ruin my whole game you were my ride or die aaaaaaaaah” because it wasn’t true. And even before people were vote out, I tried not to overpromise or deem an alliance a “final 3” when I knew it wasn’t going to be that. In all honesty I figured I would be at the end with Amanda or Glyn and that my relative lack of BSing people about how tight we were would play in my favor with the jury. Like, if the jury is fine rewarding Glyn for making you feel good that’s your right. But just know that you have no way of knowing if he was ever really on your side. Because he literally told everyone he was on their side from night one (except maybe Susie?) and he admits that. Would Glyn have kept you (Ais) around or cut you like he did with Adam once he no longer needed you. We really have no way of knowing. But if Amanda was taking a spot in his final 3, that only left one spot for you, Sheila, Spiral, Jen, Jennie, and even me who he told a bunch of times about how he didn’t want me out at all. So, to me, I don’t think Glyn actually managed the jury in any substantially good way. And if you’re fine being a tool to Glyn that’s ok, but then I think I should be given credit for being the one to knock out Glyn’s tools.
Finally, about me asking you for advice after you left. That was a random shot and obviously you didn’t buy it haha. But it did work throughout the game for me to get close to people as they were leaving in order to get information. I view that as social gameplay as well. I had good relationships with Natalie, who told me about being spy and about Lemonaid Stand as she was leaving. Shahbaz told me more about his initial reasons for ratting out the all male alliance as he was leaving. And later in the game Jennie basically told me everything as she was leaving. So that plan didn’t work with you, haha, but it worked with other people and was a good way for me of using social ties to get information. And that information was also more believable when it comes when someone is being voted out, since they have less motive to keep up the lies.
Thanks and like I said, check out my answers to Jennie and Amanda too later today.
James