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Glyn, James, and Parker, this is your final chance to address the answers your opponents gave and any further questions the jury might have.

In a sense, this is a guided free-for-all.

Jury, this is your final chance to address any answers given to you by the final three and to collect any last-minute information that will help in your decision.

You have all had the weekend to ask and answer questions in a structured manner gathering information ahead of a head-to-head debate. Tonight... is the time where you get to express your emotions and have more of a conversation with the finalists ahead of your vote.

This will last for 90 minutes.

Please do not make a joke of this or use it to post memes, spam emojis, or derail conversations. Save that for the Reunion tomorrow night.
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Hello Everyone!

To start off this discussion, I need to point out a few things. First, James played a very open, chaotic and flamboyant game. Now take a step back and think, does it tell you anything that myself and Glyn, who have played a very undercover game pulling strings from behind the scenes, require less of a word salad to get our game across than James who needs novels upon novels to justify his horrible social game moves and choices when his game was on full display?

And again, with James’ answers regarding his perception of the importance of comp wins, truly shows how little he believed his social game mattered. And yes James, comps don’t matter as much in BB, hence why there has been plenty of BB winners who have never won comps (hell, Dr. Will, the MASTERMIND of the BB strategy as we know it, did just that). You thinking that HOH gives you all the power (see your answer to Amanda’s question) truly shows how bad your strategy and fundamental comprehension of the BB game is. HOH only has as much power as his or her alliance allows them to have. Yet you seemingly don’t comprehend that, burnt your social game and just did crazy moves without anyone’s backing.
Again, another element from your Amanda’s thread (because it seems like that’s where you truly gave up the most with your logic), how does my fake alliance with Sezer negate the fact that I’m the one that convinced him to give me his vote? That’s absolutely stupid. You said so yourself in your answer to Jen, alliances aren’t supposed to be ride or die, you should be ready to burn them to advance in the game. By that definition, all alliances are fake. I had Sezer in my pocket and I know so because on the very first day of merge he threw you under the bus to me, didn’t expect him to start telling people about your alliance huh? Prepare the word salad James. You’ll need it.

Again sticking to the Amanda thread (I can “kill you” (clever, I know) all day on this thread alone man), you bring up the fact that you tried to blow up everyone and see if they would spill the beans. No one fell for that my guy? What planet do you live on? The day you caused Richard’s eviction it was clear (at least to most of group B and A) that any info told to you would be volatile to our game and there was no point. Stop thumping your chest man.

LMAO, James, you keep showing your social incompetence. This part is being added LIVE ON LOCATION because you just answered Jennie, probably the person you had to convince the most in jury. You think your social game was so great but then you tell Jennie that your relationships could be broke down to playing patty cake and speaking Spanish. Come on man, no one said that deep bonds are needed but being that superficial is the worst thing for anyone’s social game. You literally have no situational awareness and it’s laughable, you twist to make it seem like you do, but if people actually took a minute to look at the chronology of the things you’re mentioning, they would see it doesn’t add up. For example, you never hid yourself behind bigger threats, YOU WEREN’T A THREAT AT THE POINTS IN THE GAME YOU WE’RE MENTIONING. Here, I’ll even use my first ever gif/image in my finale campaign:

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I know that’s hard to swallow for you. I made Adam the house target, Chelsia was just a comp beast, you were inconsequential that early on in the game. Hell, I didn’t even associate with you because on merge day (not even a full 24 hours since I first talked to you) you spread the tidbits of info I was spreading on A side to see who would spill. You fell for it hook, line and sinker. But tell me again how you had such great social situational awareness. Everything in your Q&A has proved that you lack the situational awareness needed to have any kind of meaningful social/strategic game in Big Brother. You made it to the end based off comps. Nothing more, nothing less. I’ll stop here to not sound like a broken record.

Jury, at the end of the day, if you’re not going to vote for me, vote for Glyn. I didn’t work for Glyn all that much so this is as unbiased as it can be; at least he played a great game. Please don’t equivalate a flashy game to a good game. The only positive out of James’ strategy would probably be to have the worst possible social game and then if he made it the end, he’d be able to flex that he made it and he deserves the votes for surviving even with such a horrible game. Glyn objectively played a fantastic game (next to Spiral and Jennie imo) and as real BB fans, you should all appreciate that kind of game.

Glyn is not without faults either, he stretched the truth in one obvious moment during the Q&A period. He said that his biggest move was collecting the necessary votes to get me evicted from the game. That sentence may be true in hindsight as he did have the votes considering Sezer’s non vote. But in reality, I had the votes on my side to stay. I was able to weave my way around and campaign harder than you and ruin your plan, Sezer’s misplacement of his vote was out of my control at that point. Even as a player, sitting beside him at the F3, I can see that he played an amazing game. That is the only lie that I can obviously pick out out of his Q&A session, and that should say a lot about how he covered his ass.

Obviously, besides whatever James says, I don’t believe I had to lie either, and I hope you all take that into consideration in your decision. I know my post eviction wasn’t stellar, but I couldn’t turn into the Boss of the House after coming back from eviction, that wouldn’t have been wise for me socially or strategically. I played as hard as I could from the position I was in.
Now, let the discussion begin.
 

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Guess ill get the ball rolling and say that I'm struggling with the right emotional decision. I feel both Glyn and Parker were great friends to me in the house. Glyn I feel was the better strategist but Parker was a great friend of mine.
 

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James why was your game way better for the fans to watch than glyns? Explain the wild ride and why it's a more impressive route to victory
 

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Hey all, like I said I’m at a wedding but will be checking on here every 10-15 minutes or so. I know Glyn and Parker are both going to be coming at me here. With Parker already blaming me if word salad or whatever. I tried to explain my game in detail since there seemed to be misperceptions, mostly perpetuated by people who have an active interest in me not winning this game. And I know Glyn thinks I got multiple things wrong about his game. Do I know exactly when Glyn made deals with everyone? No. But I stand by the things I said in my answers and the point of my statements. If I have a chance to elaborate I will do so.
 

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It speaks to how great of a game James played when Parker says you don't have to vote for me just please don't vote for James!
 

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I do have a big speech prepared about James as well ironically LMAO because he did get a lot of things wrong that he said about my game
 

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Adam, I think my game was definitely more fun to watch. I was making moves the keep the game lively, to make big moves and not just play the house’s game for thirty days. And playing that way aligned with my success. 15 or so people here played the house’s game and waited to make moves . Only two of them made it here. I played my own game and made it here not by default as the last house player left but on my own
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I would like to add that most of the strategy discussed after Richard's eviction was how to maneuver James and Adam out of the house. He wasn't staying off the block because he played a better social game but because we wanted Adam out first. This is NOT a personal dig at James, I'm sure he I awesome outside the game.
 

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Oop you bring up some good points in your speech Parker. I do want to state for the record though that James and I made up before I left and I did come into questioning with an open mind. My vote currently though is still up for grabs, I'll make my final decision after I see everyone's responses throughout tonight.
 

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Introduction
I am gonna preface this now before he says it, I did get mad at James a little earlier because I think he is misconstruing a lot of the things I said or did. However, James theres no hard feelings because at the end of the day, we are all here to win. As for the jurors I know some of you are pretty set on what you want to do but I hope some of you still have an open mind for why I should win!

Also, in mentioning the speeches and answered questions James gave, I compiled a list of things that I did not think were accurate about me and put them all in a list I am about to post lmfao. Prepare for another novel

I divided it into sections to help clarify what I am talking about. I typically do not believe talking defensively over your game is good because you have less time to assert points but I really have to address some things I thought were worth addressing. Ill say this now that I can acknowledge James has played a good game and im not blind to it but I still need to say all this!

Sheila and I
In Sheilas thread, her question was there any lies I told her and to just come clean about them. I was honest with her about pretty much my entire game while she was still in because I knew she did not have any super strong bonds to anyone so truthfully I felt like I could trust her with anything. Of course, I could be wrong but thats how I perceived it. She knew my true feelings and how I felt about Adam and James after I got nominated next to Richard. She also knew how I really liked her, Ais, and Amanda and how I wanted us to work together to get vengeance on everyone who looked at us as pawns in mega7. It was seem to be misconstrued that I was lying or deceitful to Sheila when if I did lie to her more, I would have said it in my speech. Sheila was always someone I felt good with so maybe I didnt give her a play by play of my strategy, but she knew who I liked, who I wanted out, and that was always 100% honest.

Final 5 HOH and Campaigning
James said that Amanda I made much less effort to campaign to him during the f5 HOH and I don’t think I did, but let me explain why he said that. When James won, everyone knew the clear target was Spiral, we all agreed on that. James told me that he was nominating Parker and Spiral so we went with it but I know I kept asking him if he was being serious because I knew of his lying past. I straight up asked him are you going to actually do it and he wasn’t giving me an answer so I joked around about having a power and he joked with me so I assumed we were still good. To me, there seemed no reason to campaign because I thought maybe he is being honest and again, spiral was the CLEAR target, it was not really up for debate. Had I known I was in trouble, I would have campaigned more but again in comparison to spiral, I thought he was perceived to be more threatening so why would I be nominated over Spiral. The way its being portrayed is that I didnt care or some shit and that was not the case at all I just thought at final 5, everyone would be honest about who their noms would be especially when one is a hulking target. Maybe thats me being naive to the reality of what should happen but thats how I perceived it.

My Social Game/Jury management
Some other things I saw James mention is me just being nice to people and learning “various random details” is really the only highlight of my jury management. Personally, I think this exact claim is why people think James has a bad social game. Learning various random things about people is a part of the social game because that shows you care and want to get to know them. Maybe learning little random facts is stupid to him, but thats what fostered my bonds with everyone because when somebody can repeat to you a little obscure fact about you, you feel listened to and appreciated. There is a psychology to playing a social game and understanding people so they can put their trust in you more than just sucking facts out of people for chess. What I personally think is a shortcoming of his game is the failure to acknowledge that there are human beings playing behind these characters, and not just robots. I don’t get to know people because I have to, it’s because I show that I actually want to. Its also about not kicking someone when their down like for example when Richard got eliminated, and James told me I shouldn’t be upset and Im taking it too personally that I got blindsided when all it was is that I was angry that I was blindsided. Of course its a game and nothing is personal and I did not take it as a personal attack either, but you also have to remember that everyone has emotions and that is what people lean on as a clutch when something like your best ally gets backstabbed. You might compare this situation with Richard similar to my HOH with Adam but a clear difference to me is I said to anyone during that time that I understand why he’s upset because that same thing happened to me where I felt betrayed; so Adam feeling betrayed and hurt by me is not invalid hence why I also told him in my speech I get it if he hates me because I burned him and a lot of people aren’t just going to sit there and take that. I did make bonds with everyone and yes I did admittedly tell everyone initially I got good vibes from them but people are more likely to open up to you If you express that you feel comfortable with them. I never explicitly said to anyone except Amanda and Richard that we are a final 2 because I did not want to make that promise to anyone. As for the people I made end game deals with(final 3/final 4), they were always honest in the moment that I was proposing them; that may sound confusing so let me explain LMAO. After Richard got evicted, Amanda and I wanted to make a final 3 with sheila and we brought that up to her before she left but she got evicted before we could go anywhere with it. With Sheila gone, I knew from there I really wanted to go to the end with Aisleyne hence why I protected her so much but she got evicted which nullified that deal all together. I made a final deal with Spiral but things changed when Parker came back and I realized how threatening Spiral truly was. I did tell Jen and Jennie near the end that I wanted to go to the final 4 with them (plus Amanda) and I was completely going to stay loyal to this but Jen got pulled from the game the exact round we made that deal and then of course Jennie got evicted. He writes in his speech that jury management is about convincing the jury you played the best game which is true! Convincing the jury includes playing that good social game. Strategy is something you cant just see and that you have to discuss in settings like this in the finale. However, in my mind, if you have to over-explain to people why you’re good socially when a lot of people don’t think that, I just feel like something is not right about that picture lmfao at least to me.

My HOH Reign
James said that during my HOH, his social game was the reason that he stayed off the block which was not the case at all. During my HOH, the round before it even happened I wanted to nominate Adam and Susie because they were the biggest targets in the game in my eyes. James was a backup plan but I knew that I had to put Adam and Susie next to each other to ensure at least one of them goes home. So I approached James with a deal saying that if he did not use the POV if he won it and if he kept me safe the next HOH if he were to win it, then I will not nominate him during my HOH. I said that because he was the one person I was afraid would squander my plan and I needed to cover my bases. If it was not for this deal, James would have gone up in replacement and not Jen.

Chelsia
James also has a very false idea of what went on in his relationship with Chelsia. The night Chelsia went off on me, she exposed both James and Spiral to me about being the people who threw me under the bus. He has this idea that if Chelsia stayed she would have gone after Amanda and I when she told me a few days after our fight and minutes before she left that she was always planning on targeting James because he was a liar in her eyes and she doesnt trust him. I lied vehemently to Chelsia that I had no idea about the backdoor and she believed me over James because James confessed about knowing about the backdoor plan which made her trust him less because she knew for a fact he went against her, but was not sure about myself because like I said, I refused to admit it. James also claims that Amanda and I were much less close with Adam than him when Adam said himself that he prioritized our final 3.

My Dependency on Comps
Another claim was that I was more dependent on comps than him and this could not be further from the truth. For example, on Susies HOH, as I mentioned in my speeches, Susie told me she would have taken me off the block if she won so it was not a chance of if the right person is gonna win the POV when 5/6 players without a doubt were going to take somebody off; im sure Jennie might have too but I am not sure I do not want to speak for her LOL. I think also in general that I did not need to win comps to get to this point. Obviously I had to win the duel but there was really no way I was gonna avoid that because James was always gonna bring Parker because he viewed him as the easiest to beat. For me, I knew that I could sacrifice losing a few comps and surviving but if James messed up any of the last remaining challenges he was going to get eliminated.

Going With The House vs Making Big Moves For Yourself
Finally, to address these big moves that I think James is putting a lot of weight into. Of course winning 4 HOH’s is a huge deal and I would be dumb to lie and say that is not something to admire. However, I think in of those 4 HOH’s the biggest move he made was getting out Richard. In his first HOH, he nominated Renny and Ryan. Obviously it was the first HOH so he wasn’t gonna do anything crazy, but just keep that in mind. His second HOH yes he made a crazy move of taking out Richard; however, didn’t that really seem more beneficial to Adam because Adam was really the only person who did not get along with Richard. Then his third HOH he took out Aisleyne who was being targeted for weeks at that point so I would not call that a crazy move. Finally his last HOH, he took out spiral which everyone wanted to do except Parker obviously. I do think he took risks in certain ways, but he totally shoots down the risks I took. Going against Parker was against what the house wanted so I did not go down that path of what the house wanted. In addition, I know Adam was starting to become a big threat when I won HOH so it was not also the craziest move ever, but no one took that shot and I could have easily rode the game playing the safe wave but I took that shot against him; especially because we had a final 3!

Parker vs Aisleyne
I also want to make a quick not about the Aisleyne vs Parker vote. I know that technically Sezer flipped and technically the vote outcome would have changed but I do want to reemphasize that Sezer was convinced within the allotted time to vote Parker so therefore even if he voted in the right place, the vote still would have went to Parker! So we can talk all about about how Sezer flipped and who flipped it but at the end of the day, we still got the same outcome😉 LMAO

Conclusion
Through all of this I will say it again though, I do not mean this to bash James or to advocate that I think he played a horrible game. I truly do not think he played a bad game at all I just think its very flashy on the surface but what you saw on the surface does not go much deeper than that other than the of course hidden plan to get rid of Richard; while with me there was more going on under the surface and more layers to it. Another example is in his speech when he said he planted seeds to Jennie and Sezer about how dangerous Amanda and I were when that move really holds no value because Jennie nor Sezer turned on Amanda and I the entire game so making note of that seems pointless. Also ironically about that, later in the game Sezer Amanda and I were on the verge of making a final 3 Lmfao. This is also simply a response to to all of James’s comments on my game since I feel like I putting down my game was 70% of his answers and his speech(nothing wrong with that just playing the game back) I will be happy to answer any further questions and ready to wrap up this season with you guys!
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@Glyn I want you to tell me what you would have done had you won the final 4 hoh. Would you have kept Amanda to keep your final 2 or would you put James and Parker in the duel knowing that James could probably beat Parker easier than Amanda? (no offense buddy).
 

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Adam wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 8:10:54 pm It speaks to how great of a game James played when Parker says you don't have to vote for me just please don't vote for James!
No it doesn't? It's called being realistic on who played a good game. It's funny but members of jury will agree with me. King Adam, how do you explain that?
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James saved me against the houses wishes.... It saved him a week... Social game can mean a lot more than being a nice guy. He used his relationships flexibly
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