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Wow! What a whirlwind two days. :dizzy:

CONGRATS ON JURY!!! :pop: :party: You have made it to the final stage of this game. From here on out, everything counts, and the people you vote out will need to be impressed by your game in order for you to win.

1. Chelsia and Shahbaz are evicted back to back with a Prisoner's Dilemma in the mix. Were you shocked by some players' answers in the Prisoner's Dilemma? What was your reaction to seeing two large targets in Shahbaz and Chelsia go in one night? Was this the ideal outcome for you?

2. Tonight was a full day of events with HoH through Eviction in one night. How do you feel about your HoH reign. Any regrets?

3. When Adam won Veto, what was your reaction to his decision to veto Susie, and what went into your decision to renom Glyn?

4. How do the past day's events change the game, and are you beginning to look at things beyond the surface level? As an individual game, are you playing the best to make the end and win, or are you playing to what the house wants?

5. Finally, with the jury beginning, how can you set yourself apart from your competitors in order to win? The house is dramatically shrinking in size, there is no longer any place to hide. Who do you see as your biggest threats, and who is sneaking under the radar, potentially taking up space in the endgame? ​
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Hey guys. I talked to Delta about concerns that I've been over-researching people so I want to put it all out there and apologize for crossing the line where I did so as described below. In terms of in-game/forum stalking, like looking at old forums and learning about aliases like Dean or Matty. I view that as fair game and not doxxing.
It is up to them to change their bios, they know there will be other returning players who will know those facts. So I do not see anything wrong there. Did I overdo it a little and seem like an obsessive freak...maybe. But also why were you having Franken-Dean like my posts to fuck with me lol. I had to fight back!


BUT... I do think I crossed a line. There are three people (and only three) where I discovered their real names. Two are hosts (Poody and Loveita) and I have and can talk to them about it more. My goal in doing that was to message them about the game in advance using info available through the website because I did not have other contact info. But it was not right of me to assume just because they were googlable through their aliases or other info that they would consent to being contacted that way. And for that I apologize for crossing a line.

The third is a former player who as far as I know was not in this game, who goes by the alias Alexis in Stranded. For clarity, I found a public social media account of hers by googling facts available in one of the podcasts. Before I did this I contacted Nofo to ask if it was ok to look up former players' social media. He said it was not illegal in game but was morally gray in the real world. My intent was to stay on the better side of the line. But in retrospect I acknowledge that I crossed the line. But most important is not whether me or other lurkers think crossed a line. What matters is that I did not know if Alexis consented to be located in that way. I should not have assumed just because I could find her that she would consent to being found and I see how my actions were a violation of her and I sincerely apologize.

I do not know any other facts about any other contestants or people associated with isolated or stranded other than what is on the forums or what I've listed above.

I'll get back to game talk in my next post.

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I also spent a long time trying to find christian country boy's youtube but could not. But maybe after the game I can see what greatness it holds, assuming he's chill with that. lol
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1. Chelsia and Shahbaz are evicted back to back with a Prisoner's Dilemma in the mix. Were you shocked by some players' answers in the Prisoner's Dilemma? What was your reaction to seeing two large targets in Shahbaz and Chelsia go in one night? Was this the ideal outcome for you?

No, I was not. I already talked about most of this in my last video DR, but I knew Chelsia and Adam were going up to the point where it was probably a mistake of me not to encourage ais to betray me. I would have been "safe" because chels would go and likely would not have been exposed as much. But at that point in the game I hadn't been exposed yet, so to me it made sense to try to build an ally in group B. Didn't work for a variety of reasons like ais thinking I want to kill her but we've discussed that.

2. Tonight was a full day of events with HoH through Eviction in one night. How do you feel about your HoH reign. Any regrets?

No major regrets. You all know that I've been fully skeptical of Glyn since day one. And I truly felt the path we were on would lead to either him winning or maybe Richard or Sheila sneaking in to win at the end. I just did not see Glyn as closer to me than Rich. And Glyn even admitted that to me after the eviction ceremony. The main regret I do have is not telling Jennie about it in advance although honestly I have felt she and Amanda had something going on with Rich for a while and why would I blow my cover that I was thinking of this move when it ONLY happens if I win HOH and someone takes Susie off the block. Same for glyn as a pawn, why would I tell him in advance if he's almost certainly not going up. I told him when the move was made and Adam took susie off. But yes I should have tried to find Jennie amidst the chaos to clue her in. I think she trusts me less now. Also think she's less able to lie about it. Amanda is better at making me think she still is with me. (AND BTW, if I was these people, I'd be THRILLED with this move. They're all so connected and now they get out Rich without getting any blood on their hands.)

The big questions are (a) why rich and not glyn, and (b) why glyn ad the renom. (B) I'll answer below cause it falls under #3. Bu why rich when Ais and others are also targetting me. Because if I took out one of group B, then the others are all clearly gunning for me. I had lost that battle when chelsia left. She was my person in group B, Glyn Rich and Jennie had seemingly locked up the support of group B over me. I needed to blow things up to really change how group B sees things. Also, Richard just never gave me any game info, he's right i withheld from him but he really withheld more. Our conversation about the shahbaz/sheila vote was really sketch and lined up with things sheila told me too. And chelsia kept telling me things richard said which either she was lying about or he was. And he's not in Mega7 so that keeps people like adam, sezer, sheila, and amanda happy (i was hoping jennie too but maybe not). And it gives me at least a CHANCE to work with group B people that, let's be real, I did not have before. Richard leaving hurts those alliances.

We also know Richard was Dean, was popular and could have been getting spy challenges, I have a gut sense he could have solved whatever that DR code thing was earlier this season, was good in comps, and was managing to stay under the radar. He was a massive threat. I did not want to waste my HOH. I wanted to make a big move that eliminated a real competitor, not Susie. Yes Susie would have gone if Rich won the veto or noms stayed the same. But that was not my number one goal. The fact that this "rocked the house" so much just shows that it was the right move because Rich was set up super well. Things can change in this house on a dime. If sheila or adam or sezer wins this round I'm safe. The others, we shall see.

It also hurts Glyn's position that is key. Glyn loses his most powerful ally. It does do Glyn a favor that he never has to choose between Mega7 and rich, but he still has plenty of other alliances to betray. Glyn says rich wanted to work with me, but either Glyn is lying or Rich was trying to keep Glyn happy. Rich had no thoughts of being with me in the endgame unless he felt I was a goat.

3. When Adam won Veto, what was your reaction to his decision to veto Susie, and what went into your decision to renom Glyn?

Adam and I discussed doing rich when I won HOH. He was super into it. #babywipes I was going to tell him to use the veto on susie after he won but he suggested it before I even could. Said it was to hide our relationship and play up the susie and him thing as a shield. I don't quite buy that. I think that he has something with Susie, since she's his top Group B ally. But here his interests and mine aligned completely. So I don't really care why he did it. Maybe it even can help me pull in Susie if we can say everyone even on Group B wanted you out over richard. idk, just a thought.

Glyn going up was 50% purely that he was the only person I was CERTAIN would stay over Rich. I felt like Glyn might understand that but he's clearly pissed -- or trying to act piss to make me feel guilty and other turn against me. At the end of the night he chilled out but I know he doesn't trust me fully or even halfly. Although he didn't even before this because of the Chelsia stuff anyway! He admitted that to me. So again, my position was not super yesterday. I posted in DR that I was a possible nom. I knew I could win that HOH so I gunned for it. Veto ended up being random anyway so happy I gunned for HOH.

The other 50% was to hurt Glyn's game. This exposes him. He stayed 10-0 over Rich. If that doesn't fucking wake people up that he's a massive threat IDK what will. Glyn will go around and say I'm all alone I have nobody else.....but they just kept you all over Rich 10-0 and acted like cutting rich was worse than death. If cutting Rich 10-0 is worth than death, what do people think cutting Glyn is to most of the house? Like self decapitating with a pencil or something idk. Like if everyone is that in love with someone, MAYBE HE ISN'T AS IN WITH YOU AS YOU THINK. So yeah I hope this exposes Glyn and made him squirm and do bolder, dumber, risker moves that blow his game up even more.

4. How do the past day's events change the game, and are you beginning to look at things beyond the surface level? As an individual game, are you playing the best to make the end and win, or are you playing to what the house wants?

I'm playing the game to win. Not to coast to the end, come up short, and give Amanda and Glyn and Richard the check for $100. If they outplay me then that's fine, but I'm treating this like a singualar opportunity to play this game that I will not waste. I am not playing what the house wants. Arguably I am playing for Mega7, but Glyn and Jennie seem to not care.

Do I think I will win? idk that depends on a lot. I could go next if Ais or spiral win hoh (or susie). I think final 3 hurts my chances because it's harder to bring a single goat and win, you need 2 goats if you're doing shady shit like me. Makes it easier for me to get to finale but harder to win. My speech at the end would be I made big moves and stuck to my core alliances. Did I lie to get that done, yes. did I put even my allies at risk above myself, yes. But this is a game all of calculated risks and the ones I made got me here with the people I wanted to be with here. something like that.

5. Finally, with the jury beginning, how can you set yourself apart from your competitors in order to win? The house is dramatically shrinking in size, there is no longer any place to hide. Who do you see as your biggest threats, and who is sneaking under the radar, potentially taking up space in the endgame?

I feel like I've covered most of this above. Just want to cover a few people points I didn't get to:

-Sheila: I think this helps me with Sheila. She probably would have been gone if a group B person won HOH. We discussed not trusting Rich and I took him out.

-Sezer: Surprisingly chill with this all. Also made some comments about Glyn that made me think maybe my whole "fear glyn"
stuff is sinking in with him. He seems to agree glyn was with richard more than us.

-Amanda: playing it better than glyn and jennie even if she's mad at me. Betrayed Spiral and blew up with chels and shahbaz but all seems to be ignored/forgotten by the house. I think she emerges as the top threat to win the game with Glyn cut down a bit by this week's events.

-Parker: clearly working with glyn, amanda, and jennie, but also giving me some info like saying the three of them are "glyn and co." I will wait to expose that depending on who wins HOH. He should really use this chance to take control of the game if he can. I would form an alliance with him sezer, and sheila/adam or something but it just seems like he would run to jennie and glyn and amanda idk. We will see what happens with HOH but he's clearly onto Glyn. Maybe if I can find a way that he doesn't fear Glyn I can pull him more to me.

-Ais and Jen: idk man, they are coming for me but also jen wants to work wtih me. I say let's do an alliance and give her some info but then she backs out. Also I feel like Jen and Pete were the couple based on all the info she had on his family situation, but maybe I'm wrong.

-Spiral could win HOH this round, he's good at comps. He probably shouldn't though. If he does I will try to convince him not to put up me. Will need to try to make a deal if I can. But this was the case regardless of what happened in my HOH.
 

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Another point. I gambled correctly that Rich and Glyn would not expose Sagittarius, our alliance. It only makes them look bad if they had an alliance with me. Maybe Glyn will expose it and say he wasn’t really in it, but it certainly doesn’t help his game and only would marginally hurt mine at this point.
 

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James wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 12:04:47 am Hey guys. I talked to Delta about concerns that I've been over-researching people so I want to put it all out there and apologize for crossing the line where I did so as described below. In terms of in-game/forum stalking, like looking at old forums and learning about aliases like Dean or Matty. I view that as fair game and not doxxing.
It is up to them to change their bios, they know there will be other returning players who will know those facts. So I do not see anything wrong there. Did I overdo it a little and seem like an obsessive freak...maybe. But also why were you having Franken-Dean like my posts to fuck with me lol. I had to fight back!


BUT... I do think I crossed a line. There are three people (and only three) where I discovered their real names. Two are hosts (Poody and Loveita) and I have and can talk to them about it more. My goal in doing that was to message them about the game in advance using info available through the website because I did not have other contact info. But it was not right of me to assume just because they were googlable through their aliases or other info that they would consent to being contacted that way. And for that I apologize for crossing a line.

The third is a former player who as far as I know was not in this game, who goes by the alias Alexis in Stranded. For clarity, I found a public social media account of hers by googling facts available in one of the podcasts. Before I did this I contacted Nofo to ask if it was ok to look up former players' social media. He said it was not illegal in game but was morally gray in the real world. My intent was to stay on the better side of the line. But in retrospect I acknowledge that I crossed the line. But most important is not whether me or other lurkers think crossed a line. What matters is that I did not know if Alexis consented to be located in that way. I should not have assumed just because I could find her that she would consent to being found and I see how my actions were a violation of her and I sincerely apologize.

I do not know any other facts about any other contestants or people associated with isolated or stranded other than what is on the forums or what I've listed above.

I'll get back to game talk in my next post.

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I don’t think I covered this, but the main reason I wanted rich out over Glyn who is really the bigger threat is because if Glyn went my allies would REALLY not trust me. I think Amanda and Jennie and I can reconcile. I do not think that would have been possible if I targeted Glyn and sent him out. I also think Adam and sezer would not have loved that. Sheila don’t give a fuck tho haha.
 

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James wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 12:04:47 am Hey guys. I talked to Delta about concerns that I've been over-researching people so I want to put it all out there and apologize for crossing the line where I did so as described below. In terms of in-game/forum stalking, like looking at old forums and learning about aliases like Dean or Matty. I view that as fair game and not doxxing.
It is up to them to change their bios, they know there will be other returning players who will know those facts. So I do not see anything wrong there. Did I overdo it a little and seem like an obsessive freak...maybe. But also why were you having Franken-Dean like my posts to fuck with me lol. I had to fight back!


BUT... I do think I crossed a line. There are three people (and only three) where I discovered their real names. Two are hosts (Poody and Loveita) and I have and can talk to them about it more. My goal in doing that was to message them about the game in advance using info available through the website because I did not have other contact info. But it was not right of me to assume just because they were googlable through their aliases or other info that they would consent to being contacted that way. And for that I apologize for crossing a line.

The third is a former player who as far as I know was not in this game, who goes by the alias Alexis in Stranded. For clarity, I found a public social media account of hers by googling facts available in one of the podcasts. Before I did this I contacted Nofo to ask if it was ok to look up former players' social media. He said it was not illegal in game but was morally gray in the real world. My intent was to stay on the better side of the line. But in retrospect I acknowledge that I crossed the line. But most important is not whether me or other lurkers think crossed a line. What matters is that I did not know if Alexis consented to be located in that way. I should not have assumed just because I could find her that she would consent to being found and I see how my actions were a violation of her and I sincerely apologize.

I do not know any other facts about any other contestants or people associated with isolated or stranded other than what is on the forums or what I've listed above.

I'll get back to game talk in my next post.

Crazy James
Additionally, Delta brought up to me how I had asked that certain identifying info about me not be used in public places in the website. Idk if everyone knows that. But keeping the openness going, I requested not to have my name or most common screen name used on the public areas of the website. I know that could come across as hypocritical. But it's because other lawyers and judges are up-tight and will google the shit out of lawyers all the time, when hiring or otherwise. I am not trying to keep my screen-names/identity from you all and I'm happy to get to know you all. :smile:
 

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3-part video DR from yesterday at the end of this post.
They are before noms but I knew who the noms would be, so it's my current thinking mostly. It's 3 parts but in total shorter than my usual DRs so y'all can chill.

The only thing I've learned since making these is that the potential Jennie as a pawn thing that Adam proposed was supposedly a "test" by Adam. He told multiple people about putting Jennie up as a pawn, to I guess see our reactions and see if it would get leaked? That's what Adam told Jennie, and she told me. Not sure if what Adam said to Jennie is true or if he was just covering his ass in case the Jennie as a pawn thing had already leaked. Hoping Jennie is telling me the truth that she did not tell Adam she knew about it from me. Parker also apparently told Jennie. Parker and Jennie are def close, as I've known. And she could even trust him over me (which is why I told her Parker ID'd her as part of "Glyn and Co." along with Amanda). BUT, I still think I want Parker to stay over Ais since Ais is more directly gunning for me. Also I think Glyn is ultimately more worried about Parker (as an end game threat) than Aisleyne (or me) so not bad to have Glyn gear his strategy towards getting out Parker in the coming rounds. Instead of gearing it towards how to get me out. Again, I'm sure Glyn and Parker have some sort of "bond" and they are both in GroupChat. But Glyn is with everyone in something.

Also for tonight, I do not plan to win HOH unless something changes or Aisleyne survives and seems like she could win. Not sure what to think about Spiral as a potential HOH, he could put me up if he and Adam really have a "nobody will suspect us working together!" thing, like I'm guessing they do.





 

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Pretty sure Amanda’s final 2 deal with me is not real in her mind, and just her controlling for if Glyn and Jennie go out. But at this point I have final 2s with sezer, Jennie, Amanda, Adam and Jen. I only proposed 2 of them.

Glyn asked me who I would put up as hoh. Obviously he wasn’t going to say for himself. But I said susie and then warned Adam because I think that’s a harmless name to drop at this point as long as Adam is aware (and Jen too I guess). Glyn asked if I would do Sheila which still makes no sense why I’m treated as some lunatic for getting rid of a non mega7 and then others like Glyn and sezer are casually naming Sheila but whatever. Glyn is probably baiting me.

Anyway, I said susie and glyn said isn’t that going to puss off Adam who you’re close to (since this is now apparently a thing). I said why would I put up Sheila that would piss off amanda. Mind you that Amanda added me Glyn and Sheila to an alliance light bulb early on. Glyn says he didn’t know Sheila or me (James) were close to Amanda. I said I thought we all still had cardashians. Glyn said he doesn’t think Jennie trusts him any more.

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A lot to unpack there. For one, Glyn may be trying to find out if I made a deal with Adam and Susie or if I would name susie as a target. But I already put up Susie so that doesn’t really make sense. Why would Adam like me if putting up Susie enrages him. Moving on, is Glyn trying to make me think Amanda isn’t close to me...that seems counter productive to him shouldn’t they all want me to think cardashians are riding to the end and then cut me last second? Or make me do their dirty work? That would be smarter for them in all honesty. This makes me think Amanda has been totally coming for me in chats with glyn. And then playing me the exact opposite. Would explain why she didn’t want to loop in Glyn to our final 3. Maybe it makes Glyn view Amanda as an end game threat. It should. The question is, what will Amanda do if she wins? Also the Jennie thing with glyn also seems counter productive for him. He might be trying to hide that he and Jennie are close but I already thought that before since we were all together in a day one alliance, so why try to hide it unlesss maybe she is giving him info from me and he wants that to keep going. I might need to be careful about that. Possible Jennie was with rich and glyn. But even if that was the case, I feel like she can’t fully trust Glyn at this point. It would be foolish. But can’t take this for granted any more.

I also told Amanda that I learned about “group chat” by scanning the group messages and it has at least Glyn rich spiral and Parker. Doing this to try to act like I believe the final 2. But I know Jennie told her this ages ago, will be interesting to see how she reacts.
 

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Lol Amanda said “oh shit” to learning about GroupChat which she knew about days ago. Good lying Amanda! Doesn’t really matter but just fun to catch a kool lie
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